The Manhattan Declaration and Westminster 2010 Declaration. A New Globalised Ecumenical Movement Emerging

I found information on this new globalising ecumenical movement as reported on http://www.shepherdsconference.org/pulpit/4444/the_manhattan_declaration/ and also on http://www.webtruth.org/latest-news.php ie the Nov09 article Standing Against Evangelical Betrayal. Here are 2 excerpts from the Manhattan Declaration ecumenical website.

Notice that twice it states "for the common good" or should that read Common Purpose ? It certainly matches what the organisation Common Purpose teach. It is an organisation of Evangelicals, Catholics and others working together for what exactly? They say to uphold Christian values, but according to John McArthur's article above, this is very loosely done, ie typical apostate stuff . See my label  Ecumenical Movement Is Apostate Why  which explains why ecumenism is apostate.

1)  ABOUT THE MOVEMENT

In 2009 a number of Christian leaders known for their public witness on behalf of justice, human rights, and the common good came together in shaping the historic Manhattan Declaration.

UFO Sightings, Abductions etc Are They Evidence of Life on Other Planets (Aliens) or The Return Of Nephilim or Some Other Explanation?

Sometime ago I wrote an article on this whole subject. I then found an article on Tony Pearce's website "Light For The Last Days" which gives a wonderful explanation and backs up my reasoning (in a better way than I could present). Also please check out this report from Answers In Genesis http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v3/n1/believe-in-ufos#  Here is my report:


First My UFO Explanation

God said that the planets were to be signs and seasons to serve the Earth and that the Earth was created to house MAN. So important to the heart of God was MAN that God sent His SON into the world to save us from our sins. In the context of God's dealings with man it makes no sense that God would create life on other planets.

What about sightings?  From stories I've heard, most of those who have had "real" alien experiences specifically abductions have at some time or other been involved with the occult in some shape or another: seances, astrology, yoga, tarot cards etc. This would indicate that demonic activity can be experienced by those who have been affected by demons or even demon possessed. However, there may be some simple "earthly" or other spiritual explanation.

The Old and New Testament teaches that Satan and his demonic cohorts are able to manifest  in many guises and disguises. For example a serpent in the garden of Eden, pretending to be the ghost of a loved one or as an angel of light. he is in the counterfeit business and is quite able to appear in a form which will lead people into deception or fear and turn them away from the true and Living God. Sometimes, he roars like a lion ,ie makes noises, but for the believer has no bite.  Those rapture reports given in the bible: Elijah, Enoch, Jesus have to be explained away by satan, so what does he do?  

Why I Can No Longer Endorse Any Of Watchman Nee's Books

Teaching carries a spiritual health warning

More Info Added 12 Nov 2010
This article is written because of  my previous inadvertent endorsement of Watchman Nee. I apologise to all for any angst that may have caused. I usually thoroughly research those I endorse first, but as explained on my post Why I  Previously Endorsed Watchman Nee Inadvertently   http://watchmanforjesus.blogspot.com/2010/05/why-i-endorse-watchman-nee-book.html  I did not think it was necessary with him. Obviously, I now need to check out all those I trusted in my early Christian life before I endorse them. I also want others who are ignorant (like I was) to be aware why we should not trust his teachings. See my report at the bottom of this post as to why we cannot trust Watchman Nee's books.  

Why I Previously Endorsed Watchman Nee (Inadvertently)

Please note that I have now removed my endorsement of Watchman Nee's book "love not the world". This is not because I am aware of false teaching in that specific book, because I found much of his teaching on this particular subject sound. However, I have since discovered some seriously wrong teachings on many of his other books. It could be that there may be something in that book which may be wrong too (haven't read it for a few years). Therefore, I do not want to be the cause of some young believers reading any of his material and being deceived.

As a young believer I read parts of "Normal Christian Life" the whole of "Love not the world" and parts of  "sit, walk, stand". At the time I was very much impressed by the last 2 books. I cannot remember everything I read in those books but there were general teachings I found very helpful and insightful and got me into serious Bible study. I always maintain that whatever any man says we should be Bereans and "check the scriptures daily to see whether these things are so".  I assumed that Watchman Nee was a sound teacher as was spoken very well of, at the time (1977 to 1981).   At that time I was not so discerning and a bit too trusting. From my research and help from someone else using this site I have discovered that his main false teaching came in his other books which I had never read. Praise God He kept me from those books.


I have also edited my post Who Runs The World? An Investigation Into The Global Scheme Of Things. Completed Report  found on  http://watchmanforjesus.blogspot.com/2010/04/who-runs-world-investigation-into_20.html with the above in mind. Notice it now has the word "revised" in its title.   See my next post above  entitled "Why I can no longer endorse any of Watchman Nee's Books" found on http://watchmanforjesus.blogspot.com/2010/05/why-i-can-no-longer-endorse-any-of.html which gives a full explanation why his teaching cannot be trusted.

Who Runs The World? An Investigation Into The Global Scheme Of Things. Completed Report (Revised)

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This report (having been in transition previously) is now finished as follows.

I have been inspired to write this article after a comment made by Someone on Bob Mitchell's blogsite. Basically they were concerned about the activities of a group called Common Purpose which are growing very rapidly and seem to be behind the scenes pushing for the EU takeover of Britain. I guess I was intrigued because of the name. Another one with "purpose" in the title. Also because I wondered if they were another Vatican (or should we say Illuminati) puppet. All part of the scheme of things?

This report has taken a long time to put together. It comes through much research of all inter-relating information and evidence and the concern  to present  the facts, with the strong desire for truth. I have also compared these findings with prophecies in the Word Of God and the Bible’s general teaching, so that I know what things should or should not be said.


As this is such a serious post I HAVE to be thorough. I also want to write things which Christians can use in their witness and be encouraged, so I have to be careful to edify, ie not just give information (which could be detrimental for believers) but also accompanied by encouraging words.
So who is running the World? My full report.

Who Runs The World? An Investigation Into The Global Scheme Of Things

This report is now complete. I have removed the contents (which were here) and transfered the whole report to the next post dated 20 April 2010. This shortcut link will take you there:

Who Runs The World? An Investigation Into The Global Scheme Of Things. Completed Report (Revised)

However, the comments (which were on this post) still remain.

What Is Common Purpose and How Does It Fit Into The Whole Scheme Of Things?

I have been inspired to write this article after a comment made by Someone on Bob Mitchell's blogsite. Basically they were concerned about the activities of a group called Common Purpose which are growing very rapidly and seem to be behind the scenes pushing for the EU takeover of Britain.

I guess I was intrigued because of the name. Another one with "purpose" in the title. Also because I wondered if they were another Vatican (or should we say Illuminati) puppet. All part of the scheme of things?

Therefore, I have spent a lot of time trying to put the jigsaw puzzle together. I have now completed this report!  Please see my post of  20 Apr 2010 by clicking on this shortcut   Who Runs The World? An Investigation Into The Global Scheme Of Things. Completed Report
Before reading that report please take time to consider this following point:  

Are We Seeing True Church Revival In These Last Days

Edited 11 Dec 2010 (the section edited is in bold).
There are many who say that the bible prophesies revival in the end times church and point to megachurches and great church growth to prove this. I will not get into debate (on this specific post) to prove FROM THE BIBLE that the last days mostly ushers in apostasy and not great church growth, although this does not discount that there could be local revivals big or small. Certainly there will be a last days revival within Israel and during the Tribulation of those leaving the apostate church but then facing certain death (after the apostate has fully developed). 

I like most believers welcome revival and do not dismiss that there could be some form of 

Information On The Seeker-Friendly Movement and Its Links, Why It Arose and How It Has Fallen From Biblical Christianity

This article is like a supplement to
Why We Should Reject Rick Warren's Purpose Driven and PEACE Agenda
 (please click)  which presents the foundation and history behind Rick Warren and Purpose Driven. In other words it gives an insight into why/how things developed into what we see now and presents scriptural rebuttels to what they preach.  This article will be developed as/when I have time. However, I feel I need to post something for the meanwhile, so that we all may be alerted and pass on to others.

Later I will write comparing scripture with what the New Age inspired Seeker-friendly churches, Purpose Driven, Emerging Churches  preach and the main players behind this movement and the facts behind why they are new age.

Just for now I will say that  Purpose Driven is part of the seeker friendly approach. Certainly they are linked. Out of these two came the emerging church which Rick Warren praises and endorses. For now I leave you with this video which  gives a very good background to the seeker-friendly phenomena. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtxzD-Rh_9M&feature=PlayList&p=69BA21BE82E2E67C&index=14&playnext=8&playnext_from=PL   

Why We Should Reject Rick Warren's Purpose Driven and PEACE Agenda

Continuing on from my post entitled "Tony Blair Faith Foundation, Rick Warren PEACE agenda and One World Political Religious Government".

I write this new post because I am SO concerned about the bad influence Rick Warren is having on the global Christian church. Please watch this video first, which is Rick's united faith message at a meeting chaired by Tony Blair  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkumUYaxl0s

I will give you a number of other links (at the bottom) which show conclusively why Rick Warren and Purpose Driven are heresy, ecumenical and therefore influenced by the Vatican.  

Revised: Conclusive Video Proof? (from Obama's own lips) That Obama is a Muslim and His Islamic Agenda For USA

This is a video of  Barack Obama speaking on many occasions. Every single clip has him either confirming that he is a muslim or stating his Islamic hopes for USA.

Okay I know the video clips have been heavily edited, but how can you make a person say he is a muslim by simply editing, unless you put a number of clips together within the same clip, but this would cause the pictures to be inconsistent and the words spoken to be stop-start affect. In the video clips in some places there may indeed be some stop-starters, but there are also clips which have a consistent flow. I find it hard to believe that the whole thing was made up. There are too many parts that do not suggest that. Certainly I feel the evidence is overwhelming.

Maybe someone could explain to me if it is possible to have clean cuts within the film to make it look consistent with a clear flow. Even with todays technology I can still tell where there are cuts in cinematic films, but I could not spot these in every case on the video.

So if the videos can be trusted it exposes Obama's hidden (but real) agenda for USA to become an Islamic state. Watchman sites have been stating their concerns about Obama for a long time - even well before he became president, but it seems few people believed us and most evangelicals were blinded by Obama into thinking he was a born-again Christian.

We Watchman all recommend that (if it is true) Americans expose him and  vote him out of office as soon as possible before USA and (probably therefore) the World becomes  controlled by Islam and Sharia Law.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28 

Tony Blair Faith Foundation, Rick Warren PEACE Agenda & One World Political Religious Government

Updated 19 Nov 2010
Please checkout this shortcut link which is an update to this article 

Latest News On Tony Blair Faith Foundation. How it is Progressing Towards Global Religious Unity

Original Article:
I have spent the last 2 days investigating what Tony Blair's Foundation is all about, combining it with what I know about Rick Warren's PEACE agenda, the Vatican's agenda for a World religion through the ecumenical movement and the World Political Leaders agenda for a New (global) World Order. The aim of this post is to simply inform what is going on by giving an overall summary of  what I have found, supported by evidence.


I do not pretend to be an expert on this and would recommend you follow experts like Bob Mitchell, Tony Pearce of "Light For The Last Days" David Hunt and such. These and many others (over the centuries) have also been teaching from the scriptures that the antichrist will rise to power and he will sweep into power by first embracing and joining together a one world religious system. At that time the Christian church will also be seduced and become apostate. The ac will also ride on a new political world order. Once he succeeds in ruling the World through the use of globalised religion, he will then ditch the religious system and rule by tyranny. We can see these things developing very fast. before our very eyes. As Jesus said "when you see these things, look up for your redemption is drawing near". So here are my findings:

Tony Blair courts US pastor Rick Warren in bid to unite faiths

Before I start, I want to draw your attention to articles written before and AFTER this article was originally published. After you read the article below,  please read these articles which are a continuation on this theme:

1) Tony Blair Faith Foundation, Rick Warren PEACE Agenda & One World Political Religious Government
on: http://watchmanforjesus.blogspot.com/2010/03/tony-blair-faith-foundation-rick-warren.html which gives a more thorough investigation into the link between Tony Blair, Rick Warren and the Vatican ecumenical agenda

2) Why The Catholic Church is Not a Christian Denomination  on:  http://watchmanforjesus.blogspot.com/2010/03/why-catholic-church-is-not-christian.html which shows how the Catholic church is a false religion.

This Article reads:
So Tony Blair wants to work closely with Rick Warren! Not that long ago Tony Blair spent time with the Pope in the Vatican becoming a Roman Catholic. It is becoming ever clear now that Tony has a mandate from the Vatican (as an agent) with an agenda to fulfil. Please see the links below (particularly the second one which shows how things fit together for the purpose of a globalised ecumenical church as controlled by Rome).

Clearing The Tables Of The Money Changers

I was inspired by a comment made by  "Wary" to my post within this shortcut link:  Why You cannot Trust Any Preacher Who Has Ecumenical Connections   to write this article.
It is drawing the comparison with the money changers in the temple that Jesus drove out with the way bibles and Christianity is being marketed today. What was Jesus reaction? He was furious! At no other time did He show such fury during His 33 years as a man, so it must be important to note why. Why was Jesus so angry? Let's look:

Why You cannot Trust Any Preacher Who Has Ecumenical Connections

Edited 12 Dec 2010
I have found something VERY interesting in all the research I have done (so far) on individuals and organisations. Please see the bottom of this post for my method of research (if you query how I get this information).


What I have discovered is that ALL those supportive of anything ecumenical tend to all associate with Catholics and teach that Catholics are part of the church. They generally speak well of the pope. They tend to appear and preach at ecumenical meetings and work tirelessly to promote unity across all denominations (including the Catholic church). Please see this shortcut link Why The Catholic Church is Not a Christian Denomination  which shows why we should not associate with Rome. Rick Warren is a major player (in this respect) in these days.


I am for and not against encouraging unity across fundamental, evangelical, protestant churches who "stick" to the Bible as our final authority, but ecumenicalism (of our day) doesn't do this. It associates with Rome, New Age and all sorts of other "experiential" christianity.
Edited 12 Dec 2010
First see my post on this older shortcut link Ecumenical Christian Organisations and New-Age Christian Organisations To Avoid   and then click on the links listed within that article for even more information.    If a preacher is lnked to any of these, then he probably has catholic and/or new age connections and is probably supported by the Vatican, but certainly has

Why Most of Our Major Bible Translations Can Be Trusted

Edited 22 Jan 2011 and 9th Nov 2014.  See Additions At bottom of this article


This follows on from the debate about the reliability of the NKJV. For those reading the debate (who are not believers and do not know whether they can trust the Bible) please refer to my article within this shortcut link. Please click on  How The Bible Was Put Together and Proving Why It IS The Inspired Inerrant Word Of God 
That article is referring to the original manuscripts of the Bible. The MAJOR translations or versions from these manuscripts up to about 1980 may have some superficial differences, but basically all say the same things and can be trusted as inspired by God.  The above link gives evidence why the Bible can be trusted to be the Divine Word Of God.


Up until the last 30 years or so, virtually all versions (or translations) were taken directly from the original manuscripts and painstakingly translated word by word, into the versions we have, and done with a real devotion and reverence for God and His Word. The link proves why the original manuscripts are reliable. I have also compared all the major

Bible Translation NKJV Revised Article

Please note I have now edited my previous post on this shortcut link  Revised: Bible Translation NKJV Debate   regarding the NKJV subject because I  subsequently discovered some serious error in what I posted, so HAD to correct the errors. Please read the article all over again, bearing in mind the comments I had to make.

Sorry if I caused unnecessary angst or confusion.

Revised: Bible Translation NKJV Debate

Edited 3 March 2011 and 9th Nov 2014 (see the edited section in bold)

I have revised  this post and removed most of the article I had previously posted, as it may lead to unnecessary angst and confusion. Please also reads the comments which relate to this post, below.

Based on the replies I received I want to clarify some things from the material I sent. Someone pointed out to me that the shortcut link I gave you was from a website  that  is unreliable. At the time I was looking at a website "biblebelievers" (after investigating the site thoroughly). It looked very sound to me. So when they showed an article about the symbol on NKJV bibles I pressed the link not realising it took me to another external website.  Although I would mostly  recommend  http://www.biblebelievers.com/  I am not willing to recommend http://www.av1611.org/nkjv.html I am actually unsure why "biblebelievers" needed to give the link there.

Although I have to say that av1611 do raise some interesting points but unsure if we can take them seriously or not. The Trinitarian Bible Society also give scathing remarks about the NKJV. Maybe I should have sent this instead as more reputable in what they say.

Evidence Of Premier Christian Radio's Ecumenical and Catholic Links. Why They Can Be Dangerous.

Additional Information 19th November 2014 At Bottom Of This Article

Premier Christian Radio has great influence amongst Christians in the UK (in particular in London where it first operated). It is mostly heavily subscribed financially by Kingsway International Community Church ie KICC (which is a Word of Faith church) and the Roman Catholics, so has become VERY ecumenical (and New Age ideas are promoted on the digital radio and on its website). It seeks to unite Evangelicals, Protestants and Catholics by presenting mixed programmes, but is primarily Catholic, new age and ecumenical, presenting some very weird stuff and promoting heretical Christian groups. As a high percentage of Christians in England listen to the station they are being badly influenced (brainwashed) in this ecumenical drive.


However, at present (amongst the majority of poison) they do have a "few" decent teachers who teach scriptural truth but for how long? Please click on this shortcut link

This is How Worldly The Church Is Becoming. Young Preacher Of The Year Competition.

I saw this advert on Premier Christian Radio which operates in the UK.  A competition for "Young Preacher of The Year 2010". Please see the advert below.


They have got to be kidding????  This is how far the church in UK has gone downhill. Behaving just like the world and using worldly means to choose preachers. This is sick!!! 


What has happened to God's anointing and the Holy Spirit distributing the gifts and calling. Now mere men decide by worldly means who has "preaching talent" via a competition.  YUK!!!!!  I thought God chooses because HE looks upon the heart whereas man looks on the outward appearance. Remember what God said to Samuel when choosing David as king.