In These Days Of Apostasy, Why Follow Leaders?

This is just a brief article, to be linked to another article, written because of the multiplicity of questions received as to whether I actually recommend any good leaders, at all.

There were many that I respected and believed to be genuine followers of Jesus, not caught up in the ecumenical train towards Rome. However, as time has gone on, many of these have succumbed. Therefore I do not want to write such a list in case further leaders also succumb. In any case, should we be looking to leaders or to Jesus for our Christian growth and maturity?

I wrote an article (at the bottom) which includes a long list of those with ecumenical/new age etc ties. I made the point that just because their name appeared, did not mean I was calling them false.

Some of these may have inadvertently

Rick Warren and Word of Faith's Full Apostasy Is Complete. Mystery Babylon Is Taking Even Greater Shape Before Our Eyes

My last article:

God is NOW Sending Us a Last Warning that the Rapture of the Church, Followed By the Great Tribulation Is VERY Close at Hand. Strong Evidence Given

showed the evidence and signs of how very close we are to the rapture of the church and to the last 7 years before the Second Coming (which includes the worst time ever on planet Earth).

It also showed how Rick Warren will be joining the pope with other faith's religious leaders in the Vatican this month. In fact, I also show another video at the bottom of this article, showing Rick's adoration of the Pope, saying that anyone who likes this pope, will certainly love Jesus.

This article now provides even further evidence that the rapture and Second Coming are extremely close by looking at the way that the apostasy of vast parts of evangelical and protestant Christianity has increased within the last year or so.












What follows is absolutely shocking.

On many of this blog's articles it gives evidence that the Word of Faith organisation was originally set up by Rome's agents using it to infiltrate protestant/evangelical churches by pretending to be protestant evangelical preachers. The blog mentions how the Word of Faith leaders are ecumenical, working with Rome and warned us to reject Word of Faith and come out of it.

Well I now have the absolute proof of their intentions and allegiances on 3 videos below (re Jan 2014) and as indicated on the above photos which was taken some time after that event.

I have now been made aware of something which happened at the beginning of this year, which is another massive step towards the apostasy of large parts of the charismatic section of protestantism joining Rome and therefore the strengthening of  mystery Babylon - the one world global. religion. Word of Faith, parts of NAR and the Emerging Church/Seeker Sensitive movement (through Rick Warren) have now bowed the knee to Rome by declaring their absolute allegiance in unity.

The second video is of Kenneth Copeland leading a Word of Faith conference for all the leaders of that organisation early this year in which the Pope and Word of faith made an open declaration of unity with Rome. In fact the response from Kenneth was astounding and looks very much like he was actually praying to the pope, by blessing and praising him and offering themselves with all their might. At one point in his prayer it was like he suddenly realised what it looked like and paused to change the tone: "we thank you sir (pause......) we thank God for you". You can find it from the 43m:39s point.

The first video is of Tony Palmer who is a very close friend of Pope Francis working as the Pope's "Elijah" to bring protestants back to the Catholic Church. Tony declares

Appealing To Christian Blog Writers and Born Again Believers Everywhere To Demonstrate Love

It is time for us to change our behaviour and make a difference!   If we are truly born again by God's Holy Spirit, then it should be evident by the way we conduct ourselves with each other.  We need to show this world that true Christians are different. If we do so, maybe, just maybe they will listen to our message.

There are far too many blogs/websites and contributors who do not express the love of God to each other, but get embroiled in needless angry, hateful retaliatory disputes on vital and not so vital doctrine. It is okay to earnestly defend truth, ESPECIALLY if it is over vital foundational truth, but even then it should be done with a humble, loving gracious, merciful attitude AT ALL TIMES!!!.

Watchman, apologetics and discernment sites (if they are good, sound and reputable ones) rightfully focus on defending the faith and exposing error, heresy, apostasy etc and warning against false teachers according to the instructions in the New Testament to protect the church against wolves. This blog is no different and its main purpose is to do this - especially exposing ecumenical (Catholic), New Age, etc infiltration.  However, THERE IS a right and wrong way to do this. We must always remember to speak the truth IN LOVE. I do hope that this blog DOES illustrate this. 

This article is an exhortation for us all to start expressing that love. I hope this can be done by reminding us what the New Covenant (NT) teaches. Here are a few to get us going:

1 John 2: 9-11 "He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes."

1 John 3:17-18  "But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth."

1 John 4:20-21 " If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?  And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also"

The apostle John spent much of his letters discussing the importance of love. The words I underlined are stressing that it is no good to just say the right things if we do not express love in action. Yes, we must SPEAK truth (because we

Watchman Alert! Evidence That Andrew Strom Is Ecumenical and Probably Still Belongs to the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)

The purpose of this report is to warn about Andrew Strom (who has a large following), giving evidence that he is STILL infected by NAR doctrine (aka as Latter rain) or is actually still secretly belonging to them and has ties with Rome. It is a warning because his teachings, visions etc are dangerous because they are mixed with much heresy. 








For more on NAR please click on this shortcut  The New Apostolic Reformation. Why We Should Be Concerned About It   Andrew says he has left NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) but his teachings, and over emphasis on reported visions, dreams, prophecies and desire to reintroduce apostolic ministry give the game away that he still belongs to it.

This is what I wrote to Andrew's article on:

http://www.revivalschool.com/cant-find-a-church-andrew-strom/#comment-8453

"Any sort of ECUMENISM which effectively unites false Christianity into ONE whore organisation is the Whore mentioned in the Book of Revelation. The book of Revelation AND Paul both state “come out of her!!!!!!”

Any joining hands (in direct or indirect ways) with the counterfeit Roman church, which came out of Babylon religion, is to be rejected!!!

The reason that so many are now churchless is basically because of the influence of ecumenism, new age, mysticism, occultism etc etc on the evangelical church. We ARE trying to find a way of addressing this because we KNOW we need fellowship, but fellowship with what? Unity of true born again believers is not being questioned here. It is unity with false christianity that we dispute."

I also tried to reply to someone who asked me a question but Andrew kept deleting it. I wonder why?  This is what Andrew wrote: I leave a screenshot (in case it gets removed).

http://www.revivalschool.com/cant-find-a-church-andrew-strom/#comment-8493

After he wrote this comment he banned me from commenting anymore. WHY? Has he got something to hide or afraid that he will be exposed.

I emailed Andrew to ask him why he would not publish my latest comments and why I was banned, but instead of answering my question appropriately he simply accused me of something untrue.

This was one of the comments of mine that Andrew removed:

“The reason I linked David Marsh to the manifest sons of God doctrine is because David said 'The Bride of Christ has also been called the Elijah Company, Gideon’s army and so forth but many are aware that God is going to bring forth this company of Christians – who will be empowered with a double portion of the Holy Spirit.'

Here is the link to his comment.

http://www.revivalschool.com/cant-find-a-church-andrew-strom/#comment-8397 

This vision is frequently used by the Latter Rain movement (aka NAR) by those like

Hold Onto Your Old Bibles and Preserve Them AT ALL COSTS

Edited 19th March 2013 (edited parts in purple)


URGENT

NIV 1984 Has Now Been Removed From Online Bible Sites (such as "Biblegateway", "Biblos", "bible.com","Bible.cc"). I looked at a few others  -  in all cases the same story. All of these are now ONLY listing The Corrupt 2011 Version.

It has come to my notice that yet another evil is amongst us moving by stealth as part of the increasing apostasy.

Many of us are aware in how our churches have been infiltrated with false teaching, counterfeit Christianity and paganism in increasing measures over the last 30 or so years. Those who are fundamental Bible believers (especially watchmen and discerners) have been working overtime trying to stem the flow of apostasy by declaring what THE BIBLE says.

So what happened?  The apostates brought in false bibles like the new age version "Message" bible and twisted versions like the New Living Translation and many others, which are "politically correct" versions to satisfy the fleshly desires of sinful nature. Then newer corrupted revisions of the hitherto trusted versions were brought in, like the 2011 revision of the NIV.  To read about that, please click here 

Up until recently the NIV 1984 version and other reliable older versions (such as the NASB and KJV) were still available on bible sites.

Today, I have discovered that all the bible websites seem to have now removed the 1984 NIV version. I also noticed that other older revisions of some of the other reliable versions such as NASB and KJV also seem to have been removed.  What we now seem to have remaining is: NIV 2011, KJV 2000,  NASB 1995 as the most recent ones in stock. Even the NKJV is difficult to find on some sites.  I guess that these will also soon be removed from Christian bookshops also.

Soon, it will be impossible to buy any bibles which have not been increasingly corrupted by the money grabbing "christian" pharisees of the 21st Century. Please note my article on that subject by clicking here.

For those who are not aware, the newer versions are not JUST a reprint but include modifications. These modifications range from very subtle changes to much bigger (more noticeable) ones.  Mostly they are aimed to meet the demand for bibles that are more contemporary (i.e, more politically correct and more suitable to those with "itching ears").

Therefore, we ALL need to hold onto the REAL unadulterated TRUTH of God's Word as best as we can by RETAINING those older versions because SOON they will no longer be available. It is clear that the apostates are doing this deliberately so that the next generation can no longer recognise false teaching and therefore will be unable to oppose the false teachers - because their bibles are corrupted to suit these false teachers and allow them to flourish in even greater ways.  

Jacob Prasch: A Vindictive Railer. Are These actions and Words Conducive Of A True Man Of God?

I had known of Jacob Prasch for many years and heard him preach many times. I had up until now excused his very brash style because I naively used to believe that he was a true man of God who preached truth and was used of God to expose false teachers and prophets.




However, in recent years it has come to my attention how Jacob is not just behaving like a bully but is also actually preaching elements of heresy  such as his "work based" salvation (Arminian) theology, his partial rapture for only "worthy" believers (again "work based") and his extra biblical (Enoch) teachings on the Nephilim. To see why the Arminian theology is heresy, please read that article by clicking here).

To read what Jacob says about the Nephilim please go to (http://www.moriel.org/Teaching/Online/Future_History_of_the_Church/Part_3-04_Nephilim.html see also the bottom of this article for the screenshot image of that page especially read the part where Jacob ADDS to the Bible).

AND

more specifically how his "behaviour is getting worse and worse".  IT IS TIME for true believers to stand up and say with a big collective voice "ENOUGH already!".

Jacob you are bringing the Christian message into disrepute by your disgraceful rants. Repent and humble yourself under the mighty hand of God.

The following things written by Jacob (below) are groundless accusations against Deborah. She hosts a blog which I used to contribute to    * (see notes at the very bottom in blue).
She has presented accuracy with very clear documentary evidence of the things she writes.

Of course she may have (occasionally) used some of her own conclusions, but Jacob's attack is simply because he has been found out and is reacting (over reacting).  I have checked out (for myself) what Deborah has written. Much of what she says is definite evidence and been argued rationally, mostly fairly and scripturally. Certainly it is nonsense for Jacob to accuse her of those things below.

Below is what Jacob has written. Are these the words of a man of God? Especially notice what he said in red/bold writing.

"The invented out and out lie by “Deborah” that I call such brethren heretics in the book or elsewhere is a vicious and demonstrable lie obviolly embraced by her lunatic followers such as “Redeemed” etc. Sherry B. rather statss vicious things. One of these religious fruitcakes calls those not in agreeement with pre trib, “Ministers of Satan”. The point is that it is fully documented that Deborah is lied and spread slander. We are warned such people would come in the last days by Paul in 2 Tim. 3:3 where the term for such liars as Deborah is “diaboloi” or demonic people. Plainly, anyone who tells such obvious lies aimed to misrepresent the truth to others with an intent to defame is demonic. The Word of God, not Jacob Prasch , calls Deborah ‘demonic’. 

New Frontiers ARE Ecumenically Joined To Rome. The Evidence.

This report (copied from the comments section within 
List Of (Probable) False Christian Leaders, False Christian Teachers and False Prophets (As Indicated By The Ecumenical or Heretical Organisations They Belong To) )

will show why the New Frontiers church movement is ecumenically joined to Rome by looking at some of its history, activities and associations.

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Here is the history behind the New Frontiers Movement which shows why it is a dangerous group to be involved in.

Some time ago I read Terry Virgo’s blog. He did not and will not condemn false revivals like Todd Bentley’s so called Lakeland Revivals. Of course he wouldn’t because New Frontiers are actually on the frontline of these “experiential” revivals like Toronto. New Frontiers are attached to/are supporters of New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) who "organised" that false satanic event. NAR were previously known under various names including "Latter Rain". New Frontiers are co-workers with NAR.


This is a video of Chuck Pierce of New Apostolic Reformation, who works alongside C Peter Wagner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfkkWx4DLuk&feature=player_embedded
This video illustrates how weird the NAR are becoming. It sounds so demonic.

Here is an excerpt (written before the Lakeland revival) regarding New Frontiers, to prove the point about them from:
http://www.birthpangs.org/articles/background/restuk3.html

“Branching out from their former isolation and tight doctrines, they have become ecumenistic, almost liberal, and are networking with every church group imaginable. The restoration fellowships, together with Elim Pentecostal fellowships, were in the forefront of the Toronto, Promise Keepers and Pensacola controversies, just as they had promoted the Kansas City Prophets earlier on.

Restoration teachings are responsible for infecting almost every branch of British church life, and their goal of full visible unity seems to draw nearer every year, as successive churches succumb to their influence.”

This link:
http://www.birthpangs.org/articles/background/restuk2.html
also gives the full history background behind the New Frontiers movement.

As I (myself) got drawn into them during the 1980′s and 1990′s I DO know that these things are TRUE. However, for now, let me start by asking some questions:

Does New Frontiers support any of the following: 

Pastors: Should We ONLY Preach The Gospel and Nothing Else?

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I received an interesting email which highlights something very important. I was told by a pastor "I am thoroughly weary of all this. We seek to preach Christ, and Him crucified." Therefore, I would like to address his statement in this article.

Is he correct?






Edited 4th Aug 2012 (parts edited are highlighted blue).

Of course our focus MUST be on Jesus. However, Paul told us to not be ignorant regarding the methods used by our enemy and that we should be vigilant as watchman in warnings and prayer. "Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices." 2 Cor 2:11


I assume that "we preach Christ and Him crucified" means that these pastors focus entirely on ONLY preaching the gospel message of salvation and nothing else.  If that is true, it gives me grave concerns.


Pastors:  Is that ONLY what we should be preaching?


If you are ONLY preaching to the unsaved then it would be totally acceptable. But, if you are preaching to the saved, then shouldn't you be taking note of Hebrews 6:1-2:


" Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment" ?


Our job is not to go over the same elementary message over and over again but go on to disciple believers. Part of the discipleship process is 

Chuck Missler. His Vatican, Ecumenical Associations and Other Apostasies Exposed

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Edited 30 Jun 2012 (see edited section at the bottom of this article)

I cannot do better than simply to show this following link which says it all!

http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/01/09/do-not-be-unequally-yoked-together-with-unbelievers-chuck-missler-and-roger-oakland-exposed/#more-10502

I also wrote (a number of times) to those who still endorse Chuck Missler  (like Moriel Ministries) but never at any time received any replies. That is actually odd, because I used to receive replies to my emails from them.

This is what I wrote: