Why You cannot Trust Any Preacher Who Has Ecumenical Connections

Edited 12 Dec 2010
I have found something VERY interesting in all the research I have done (so far) on individuals and organisations. Please see the bottom of this post for my method of research (if you query how I get this information).


What I have discovered is that ALL those supportive of anything ecumenical tend to all associate with Catholics and teach that Catholics are part of the church. They generally speak well of the pope. They tend to appear and preach at ecumenical meetings and work tirelessly to promote unity across all denominations (including the Catholic church). Please see this shortcut link Why The Catholic Church is Not a Christian Denomination  which shows why we should not associate with Rome. Rick Warren is a major player (in this respect) in these days.


I am for and not against encouraging unity across fundamental, evangelical, protestant churches who "stick" to the Bible as our final authority, but ecumenicalism (of our day) doesn't do this. It associates with Rome, New Age and all sorts of other "experiential" christianity.
Edited 12 Dec 2010
First see my post on this older shortcut link Ecumenical Christian Organisations and New-Age Christian Organisations To Avoid   and then click on the links listed within that article for even more information.    If a preacher is lnked to any of these, then he probably has catholic and/or new age connections and is probably supported by the Vatican, but certainly has
historical Babylonic Religion connections.

We are in terrible times. It is VERY difficult to know who are true shepherds and wolves in the preaching arena. Even in Paul's time he had to warn believers to watch out for false teachers. Even those who say the right things about the apostate church seem to later recant and get on the ecumenical train.

For example I supported Josh McDowell, only to find that he occasionally teaches at "promise-keepers" events, which is wildly ecumenical. I wrote to him asking why he supports ecumenical movements. The full contents of  our correspondence can be found within the "comments" section within this shortcut link

The Promise Keepers Movement is Dangerous. Watch Out For It!   He simply replied “I appreciate P.K. but am not a supporter or activist”. Surely that is the same as saying he supports ecumenism?.  Subsequently I have found that he has signed on to the Ecumenical "Manhattan Declaration". So, who can we trust?  Actually, we cannot put our trust in ANY man. Jesus taught us not to put our trust in man but rather in God.

That includes me,  because I will get things wrong (at times) but always check out what man says against the Word of God. Be a Berean and check the scriptures daily to see if what is being said is true.   So I would say that if a teacher/preacher shows himself to be ecumenical or new age, avoid them or at least be wary, taking what they say discerningly and checking it out.

Mind you, I have found that even ecumenicals can be a source of useful information and facts but BE WARY because there may be poison mixed in.


When I research I do 3 things:
1) I like to look up the person's own website to see what they teach. Specifically if they are ecumenical.

2) Check out their organisational connections and those they associate with

3) find out what reputable sites have to say about them

I start by doing google search on the person's name, to find their website.

I then search again by typing that persons name adding the words "ecumenical" or "false teachers" to see what others say about him/her. I only read comments from the sites I trust. So  that I can trust these sites I do the same style of research on these sites, also.

I then replace "ecumenical or false" with say "moriel" to see if they have any info.