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Monday, 1 February 2010

Why We Should Expose The Tares of False Teaching In Our Churches

Based on a conversation I had with someone about false and deceptive teaching hitting our churches in these days and why it is important to expose it. They said that Jesus told us to not worry about it because tares and wheat should grow together. However, was Jesus saying that? Scripture teaches otherwise!.

I felt so concerned about the implications of what this person was saying, that I felt I needed to search the scriptures. I would like to share with you what I found. It can be put into 2 sections where scripture covers "Preaching to the spirits in prison" and "tares and wheat".

Preaching To The Spirits In Prison

Before we ever make a doctrine from scripture we MUST compare scripture with scripture and never take a text out of context. If a scripture seems to be saying something but the rest of scripture teaches something completely different, then our interpretation of that text MUST be wrong.  Scripture teaches the following (which contradicts what Kenneth Copeland of Word Faith teaches):  

It is appointed for man to die ONCE and then the judgement (no second chances).
The story of the rich man and Lazarus and the outcome that there are NO second chances.  Colossians 2:14-15 says “………he took it away, nailing it to the cross and having disarmed the powers and authorities , he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them, by the cross  Many other scriptures say the same thing, that everything was finished at the point Jesus died on the cross.  Victory over the evil one was completed at that point. Therefore, no requirement for Jesus to go to hell. Philippian 2:6-11  mentions Jesus obedience to life and death but does not mention  submission to satanic torture in hell.

Paul wanted to know nothing else but Christ Crucified. He says the message of thecross (not the graveis the power of God for our salvation. Obviously the cross without resurrection would lose its power.

Collossians says All the fullness of the Godhead dwelt bodily in Jesus. Scripture teaches that the Godhead (trinity) cannot be divided and that God cannot look at or be absorbed by sin.

What would be the point of preaching to the Noahic spirits in hell if they do not have a second chance.  If they are not in a provisional place before hell,  why does it say “prison”. The Holy Spirit cannot abide in a vessel which is full of sin, so it cannot be the Holy Spirit which preached to the spirits in prison.

There are a lot of scriptures I would like to show you which show that it is a false teaching which does not measure up to the rest of scripture, but the above should be sufficient .

Therefore, we need to understand what Peter was actually saying. I thought through this, came to my own conclusions and then checked to see what others said about it (they all actually say what I concluded).  The Old Testament teaches that the sacrifice of an animal’s life is sufficient to cleanse sin (temporarily). We read in scripture that  Jesus is the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the earth.

The message of redemption has been preached by the same Spirit of God through the prophets since Genesis. Peter said that it was by the Spirit that Jesus preached to the spirits in prison. We read that Jesus appeared throughout the Old testament. Scripture teaches that Jesus (THE WORD) actually was involved in the creation process of the World. It is fair to say that Noah preached by the Spirit of God to those who are NOW damned (the spirits who are now in prison). Peter may simply be making the point that the cross is a declaration of Christ’s victory over the powers of evil or that Jesus preached through Noah.

There are also scriptures which say that fallen angels did not keep to their station. Maybe these angels possessed  men at the time of Noah. These possessed men were the ones who had  sexual relations with God’s people. It was because of this wickedness that the flood came, which Peter is referring to. Peter is leading onto the teaching about salvation and baptism, which is why he mentions Noah and the Spirit of God. We cannot be saved unless the Holy Spirit is within us, also!

So in conclusion, there are explanations which DO tie in with scripture. Let us choose one of the answers which match with scripture, not interpretations which are isolated from the rest of scripture.

On this basis, Ephesians  4: 8-10  is not talking about hell, but about Jesus leaving the Glory of Heaven to die on the earth and be buried in a tomb (lower earthly regions). It DOES NOT say hell, so we should not do mental somersaults to make it say something it DOES NOT say.

The scripture  does say that  God would not leave the body of Jesus in the grave. Some translations say hades, but apparently although the word sometimes is understood as the place awaiting judgement, but in the case  of Acts 2:27, the original is definitely referring to the grave
So why was Jesus in the grave 3 days, 3 nights? (by the way some Passovers have what is called a HIGH Sabbath, which starts on Thursday evening and finishes Saturday evening – so Jesus was correctly in the grave 3 days and 3 nights). Two reasons. It was the Sabbath, so the body of Jesus was resting over the Sabbath period. Or could be because it needed to be clear that the body WAS dead. If he rose immediately, no-one would have believed that he truly died for our sins. 

Tares And The Wheat

Please read what Jesus said about the parable in Matthew 13: 38.  He says the field is the world. He does not say the field is the church.

Sometimes the kingdom of God or Heaven  in the parables could be talking about the church (here and now) but sometimes it can be referring to the Millennium reign of Christ.  During the Millennium, true believers will reign with Christ throughout the world, but Revelation says that at the end of the thousand years Satan will be let loose and a very large number will be deceived  into thinking they can destroy God’s people but God immediately intervenes and destroys them. This means that there will be many people who are not true followers (the tares, goats maybe) during the thousand years.

I believe the parable of the tares is referring to these people. The ones who were planted by the enemy before the enemy was chained up for a thousand years. The parable would not make sense, otherwise, as it is obvious that those (at the moment) outside the church are unbelievers. The parable is indicating that no-one will know who the tares are.

Please read 1 Corinthian 6: 2-3.  Christians are to judge the millennium world – even judge angels!  Paul says because of this we should be able to sort things out in the church, now.

Therefore, if the tares is referring to later, does scripture say that it is ok for us to expose the “tares” who are in the church right now and why is it ok?

From my reading of scripture the answer is clear. Yes it is okay because if you don’t the church becomes as the world, losing its power and dies. Look at the warning of Jesus to the 6 churches in Revelation as an example.

Jesus said  that we should be aware of the leaven of the Pharisees. He then explained that leaven was a bad thing – in this case it was bad doctrine.

He also said beware of wolves in sheep clothing, because they ravish the sheep.

Paul said, remove the leaven because a little leaven leavens the whole lump. In this case he was referring to an immoral brother. Look at 1 Corinthians 5;12. It says that we SHOULD judge believers in some cases.

So leaven can be referring to false teaching and it can also be referring to sin in the church.  Paul warns of false teachers and criticises those who called themselves apostles but are really angels of light. John warns of certain people in the churches who were teaching heresy.  If we do not recognise/expose false teachers or false teaching they will  weaken or even destroy us.

Jesus warned that deception will hit the church in the last days. The only way we can be sure of what is true in our day is to absorb the Word of God, know it through and through, so that we can check what is being said with what the rest of the bible teaches.

Listen, I believe very soon now it will become increasingly difficult to own our own bible because the bible exposes antichrist, says that Jesus is the only way etc. Politicians will increasingly blame the bible as a risk to peace in the world and that Christianity is intolerant to a one world religion.  Those Christians who do not know the bible now may not have a chance to know it in the future. They are at greater risk of being deceived.

One of the main  purposes of apologetic groups is to highlight the days we are living in and to show that deception is running riot as prophesied in the bible. They are encouraging wishy-washy Christians to get serious with God on the basis of the days we are living in. The church today (especially in the WEST) is generally asleep, carried along by a wave of emotionalism, experiences etc but not by a tide of truth, love  and dedication to JESUS FIRST. It is all about SELF FIRST ie EXPERIENCE first.


Wary said...

With a small reservation - thumbs up!

John Chingford said...

I have just read an interesting article from "GotQuestions" which puts a slightly different slant on the topic "preached to the spirits in prison". See

They suggest that the "sons of God" in Genesis 6 were the fallen angels mentioned in Jude. If this is true then when Jesus cried out "it is finished" it was a declaration (preached to?) to those fallen angels (which are now imprisoned) of the victory.

This does make sense if we consider Colossians 2:14-15

"having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it."

So Jesus triumphed over all forces of wickedness and all enemies to the soul which separate us from God or eternal life. This would have included the declaration against the fallen angels.

Having stated this, I don't know if they are correct or not. The point of mentioning it is because it is further evidence of how wrong Word Faith are in their interpretation of that verse "preached to the spirits in prison". There are far better SCRIPTURAL explanations.

John Chingford said...

I was asked a question which came from another angle. This was my answer.

Jesus did NOT spend 3 days in Hell.

First consider that no-one has been to Hell yet. It is a place in the future which was provisionally reserved for Satan and his demons. Those who died (before Jesus died) were in a "place of dead souls" called hades (translated as hell). Hades was made up in two sections.

The righteous are in a place Jesus called "Abrahams Bosom" and "paradise".

The unrighteous are imprisoned. The original manuscripts use other words that have been translated as "hell". For example "sheol". Sheol actually can be translated as "grave". The NIV version of 1984 actually uses the word "grave".

However, all the major translations mention the word "soul" as being in the grave or hades rather than the word "body". This makes it a little more confusing.

However, if you consider that in Jewish thinking (re psalm 16, where Acts 2 is quoted from) the soul is not a separate entity to the body. In the garden of Eden, it was the "spirit" that died, not the "soul".

In Jesus, it is our "spirit" that has been made alive again, not our souls. To be born-again we experience our soul being saved (the whole of us, body and soul) and our dead spirit being made alive, with the Holy Spirit indwelling us.

On the cross the mere body of Jesus (not The Son of God) died. We know this because Jesus said "into your hands I commit my spirit" God CANNOT die, the Trinity (or Godhead) cannot die.

The Word became flesh. On the cross the "flesh" died which includes the soul which is part/parcel of the body. It is intrinsically linked, cannot be divided. However, THE SON OF GOD (the spirit of Jesus) cannot die, but went to the Father

So the body and soul of the MAN Jesus went to the grave - NOT Hell.

Anyway, where do the demons live at the moment? Are they in hell or as Ephesians 6 tell us "in the spiritual realm in the air"?

So Jesus was not tormented by demons in hell (because that would be to deny many other scripture passages).

Hallelujah, God indeed did not leave Jesus in the grave but raised Him up on the 3rd day.

John Chingford said...

Just to clarify: The Godhead CANNOT die or be divided. "The Lord Our God is ONE" ie always completely and beautifully united, FATHER, SON And HOLY SPIRIT. For those who say the Son of God went to hell they are preaching blasphemy.

As stated, it was the body/human soul of Jesus that went to the grave. The real essence of the Son of God (the Spirit of Jesus) was received back to the Father. "into your hands I commit my spirit".

In Jewish thinking the body/soul cannot be separated. The soul is not the same as the spirit. The soul is part of the body. In Genesis it says that man became a living soul, ie the body was alive.

I am sure we all disagree that the body and soul are the same thing, but the psalmist may not have fully understood to what extent the soul is separate from the body.

By the way, a separation of body and soul was brought in by the Greek philosophers.

The point I am making is that just because it says "He will not leave 'my soul' in hades", does not necessarily mean "soul" in the way we NOW understand it. It was simply saying that the human body of Jesus was dead in the grave.