tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post8303638955828910028..comments2024-03-22T02:49:13.173+00:00Comments on Last Days Watchman: Who Runs The World? An Investigation Into The Global Scheme Of Things. Completed Report (Revised)Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-2556507625775621122010-05-18T09:48:08.648+01:002010-05-18T09:48:08.648+01:00John,
I should have been clear in my post, if Ric...John,<br /><br />I should have been clear in my post, if Rick Warren is tied in with or endorsing Alpha - that should raise a BIG GIANT RED FLAG!<br /><br />I was always suspect of Alpha, and actually had no idea that Rick Warren had any association or endorsements of the program until approximately 3 weeks ago when researching for a friend of mine who attended the course as well as owning a copy of his book.<br /><br />The information you have provided in the past on Rick Warren should surely be enough to raise a red flag for anyone who may have an interest in his philosophy or who he associates with.Tony Coxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-80768951196135376392010-05-17T23:50:38.636+01:002010-05-17T23:50:38.636+01:00Thanks Tony
I wonder if you could comment on your...Thanks Tony<br /><br />I wonder if you could comment on your observations of that report by Rick Warren? By the way, I found the same article on an "alpha USA" website as follows:<br /><br />http://alphausa.org/Mobile/default.aspx?group_id=1000041932&article_id=1000047767<br /><br />A copy of these last 2 comments can also be found on the post about Nocky Gumbel. These latest comments help to show even more how everything seems to fit together in the global political, economic and religious conspiracyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-65304153494657259012010-05-17T23:39:22.337+01:002010-05-17T23:39:22.337+01:00Hi John,
Wanted to send this your way - transcrip...Hi John,<br /><br />Wanted to send this your way - transcript of Rick Warren in 2007 endorsing Alpha and mentioning Nicky Gumbel and Ken Coasta:<br /><br />Rick was speaking about Alpha on a special video filmed in India, where his organization is working with Alpha and the Billy Graham Association in the My Hope India project through which millions came to Christ in the spring of 2007. <br /><br />Full Transcript of the Testimony by Rick Warren:<br /><br />"Over 30 years ago in London, England, God began a movement that has now spread all around the world. It’s called the Alpha course, begun by my dear friends Nicky Gumbel, Ken Costa and other friends. We’ve seen this course expand to be used to reach literally millions of people to Christ.<br /><br />If you have never heard of Alpha, I want to challenge you to check it out. It is one of the most effective evangelism tools for the 21st century.<br /><br />The Alpha course can be used in three different ways. First, it can be used with people who have absolutely no religious background at all. It can be used with seekers or enquirers. It is a good way to bring people to a small group study who would never be caught dead in a church – they’ll take that first step, they’ll sit on a couch with some friends and examine the claims of Christ and what is really does mean to be a follower of Jesus. Millions of people have come to Christ through this way. <br /><br />A second way you can use it is to revitalize your Church, to bring new renewal in a Church which has lost its vision, that has lost its commitment, that has been on auto pilot for some time. Many, many traditional Churches, mainstream, mainline Churches have used Alpha to find new growth and new renewal as people come alive and rediscover the vision of the great message of the good news. <br />A third way you can use it is to help with new believers. It is a great first step course, because it goes over the basics of why we believe what we believe and what we do believe.<br /><br />Many of you have heard of the 40 Days of Purpose campaign that is also being used by God mightily around the world. 40 Days of Purpose and Alpha fit together like hand in glove. It really doesn’t matter which one you do first. If you have done 40 Days of Purpose, you need to do Alpha: if you have done Alpha, you need to do 40 Days of Purpose, because these two are similar programs inspired by the Holy Spirit to <br /><br />•deepen and develop the Church <br />•help us fellowship deeper <br />•help us grow more like Christ <br />•help us learn to serve in ministry <br />•help us to share our faith in mission <br /><br />So, as the author of The Purpose Driven Church and The Purpose Driven Life, I, Rick Warren, want to tell you that Alpha has my 100% endorsement and I would encourage you to use it in small groups in your Church and everywhere that you can. <br />God bless you.Tony Coxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-51328083339590306922010-05-15T01:45:34.398+01:002010-05-15T01:45:34.398+01:00Thanks Tony,
Very applicable to the global scheme...Thanks Tony,<br /><br />Very applicable to the global scheme of things.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-36709352360777186832010-05-15T01:44:30.364+01:002010-05-15T01:44:30.364+01:00John,
Your latest post about the Alpha Course,is ...John,<br /><br />Your latest post about the Alpha Course,is right on time - I have a very close friend who took the alpha course about a year ago -my friend asked me if I wanted to go, and for some reason I was not interested at all - I did not know much about it then, but saw some information posted on Moriel about 3 weeks ago.<br /><br />I started to discuss the dangers of the course with her and she listened, but is not convinced as she stated "well I am sure there are people out there who would endorse it" - and my response was "yes, and Rick Warren is one of them" - to my surprise she had been given a copy of his book Purpose Driven Life, I then explained to her that in doing research - there are now many dual course offerings with "Alpha Course" along with "Purpose Driven Life" courses. <br /><br />Did you realize these were being offered in some arenas? So, now I will share this article with her hoping it will get through.<br /><br />I ran across this while searching for info on Alpha Course - I did not get the chance to find out how credible it is, but if true, it is interesting to see the financial and Illuminati connections behind the course - here is a small excerpt:<br /><br />The congregation and friends of Holy Trinity Brompton financed the Alpha development, and resource courses were sold at a profit. <br /><br />Since the goal was to involve the whole world in their project, Alpha International was founded in 2001. <br /><br />Capitol investment became worldwide, and was headed by a Jewish banker, Ken Costa, Chairman of Alpha Partners. <br /><br />This banker just happened to be Vice Chairman of UBS -Warburg, London. UBS stands for Union Bank of Switzerland-Warburg. The banking firm of Walburg has long been linked to the giant international Marxist Rothschild banking conglomerate based in the City of London.<br /><br />Isn't it strange that Warburg would be running a Christian organization?Tony Coxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-25864081879408943712010-05-11T18:45:03.158+01:002010-05-11T18:45:03.158+01:00Hi
I have now opened a new post entitled "Ar...Hi<br /><br />I have now opened a new post entitled "Are the global leaders Nephilim?". I have copied/pasted all the comments below which relate to that subject to that post. Please continue the chats (which relate specifically to that subject) there rather than here, as I feel it would be better there.<br /><br />ThanksAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-11060727051349321252010-05-11T18:05:36.290+01:002010-05-11T18:05:36.290+01:00In summary, I would say that world leaders are not...In summary, I would say that world leaders are not Nephilim but they are normal sinful human beings (like any of us would be without Jesus)influenced by satan and his hoards. "our battle is not against flesh and blood but against principalities ......" Eph 6.<br /><br />In Daniel we see that the Archangel Michael was hindered by the princes of Persia and Greece. He wasn't talking about men (or flesh and blood) but the demonic forces (principalities in the heavenly places) working over and through these men.<br /><br />Incidentally how could Obama be of the same genealogic Nepholim seed?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-17370073757085733302010-05-11T17:58:00.687+01:002010-05-11T17:58:00.687+01:00Part 7:
John: Look at Bathsheba, David and Solomo...Part 7:<br /><br />John: Look at Bathsheba, David and Solomon. David's act with (probably?) a gentile woman and the subsequent later birth of Solomon through this "daughter of men" did not stop Solomon being a "son of God"?<br /> <br />Bodie: Bathsheba was an Israelite, not a gentile, who would be under the term “sons of the living God – Hosea 1:10). Bathsheba was the daughter of Eliam (2 Samuel 11:3). Elaim was the son of Ahithophel the Gilonite (2 Samuel 23:34). Those from Giloh (Gilonites) were Israelites who inhabited that area after the conquest of Joshua and was specifically given to the Israelites that were from the tribe of Judah – the same tribe David came out of.<br /> <br />Bathsheba’s husband however, was a Hittite, some of the few descendants of Canaan that were not wiped out by Joshua. And since, assimilated into the Israelite clans and fought beside them. In fact, Bathsheba’s husband was one of David’s 30 fighting men (1 Chronicles 11:41). <br /><br />John: In fact, the line of Jesus came through a gentile Ruth.<br /> <br />Bodie: Prior to Ruth marrying an Israelite, she became an Israelite though (religious change, not by birth of course – Ruth 1:16). This is not forbidden – the same happened with Rahab and she too can be found in the lineage of Christ. This is also acceptable for Christians – for example, if an unbelieving man becomes a Christian, then a Christian woman can marry him and vice versa. <br /> <br />John: As long as one partner is right with God at some stage in their life, the child can be sanctified.<br /><br />Bodie: Sanctification doesn’t necessary mean they will be godly or be saved. We find in today’s church parents who are both Christians and the children are quite sinful, rebellious, and unsaved. Sanctification is but the start for them and it is a good start otherwise, there would be no reason for Paul to have them remain in the marriage, if the unbeliever is willing to stay. <br /> <br />Well…I hope this helps explain it a bit more. I think I’ve read so much on the nephilim in the past few years, I’m now ready for something easier - maybe evolution ha ha ha.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-85150455963732302942010-05-11T17:57:41.416+01:002010-05-11T17:57:41.416+01:00Part 6:
John: In the context it seems that the so...Part 6:<br /><br />John: In the context it seems that the sons of God going in to the daughters of men brought the wickedness on earth to a climax.<br /> <br />Bodie: I think the stark contrast that God uses e.g. “sons” versus “daughters” and “of God” versus “of men”, stand diametrically opposed. This is significant. Consider Christianity (God is the authority) versus humanism (man is the authority – remember humanism goes back to Eve when she elevated herself, a human, above God and His Word).<br /> <br />“Of man” in this instance reveals who the ultimate authority was for these daughters – pagan, i.e. humanistic. So the spiritual heads, sons, were giving up their spiritual privilege as the head to the pagan women (daughters) (1 Corinthians 11:7-9) and being led astray to false gods, particularly humanistic thought – just like Solomon. And this makes sense in light of the context, where these people were men of renown – i.e. making a name for themselves among men. Contrary to their hopes, not one of their names is remembered by God. I believe this was designed by God to show what this philosophy leads to. <br /> <br />John: It was obviously important enough to mention as a key to the judgement. This is why I believe there must have been terrible occultic practices going on, resulting in men being so corrupted by evil that even their human bodies became deformed - not necessarily because of angelic seed.<br /> <br />Bodie: Like I said, I wouldn’t discount this entirely, but it is not necessary. <br /> <br />John: 3) You mentioned God was seeking godly offspring. Remember in 1 Cor 7 Paul stated that even the children of an unbelieving partner could be sanctified by the faith of one parent. Obviously that doesn't mean the child is saved until they make a decision for Christ themselves, but it does give the impression of being a godly offspring. So I am not sure it is correct to say that intermarriage necessarily brings about an ungodly offspring.<br /><br />Bodie: This command by Paul was specifically regarding a couple that was already married, and one the two gets saved:<br /> <br />…If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her. And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace. For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?<br /> <br />Also note that Paul permits the unbeliever to depart. But this is not a command given to those who are single. They are not to marry an unbeliever as Per 2 Corinthians 6:14-16. The children are clean and sanctified, but not saved, as with the husband.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-64078635739507157212010-05-11T17:56:52.151+01:002010-05-11T17:56:52.151+01:00Part 5:
John: Couldn't women have also been i...Part 5:<br /><br />John: Couldn't women have also been incarnate with angelic seed also?<br /> <br />Bodie: The Bible never says of angels to be fruitful and multiply, so there is no reason to assume they would have seed of any form. And since Jesus makes it clear angels do not marry in heaven, this is further confirmation (Matthew 22:30). There is no reason to assume that when the fallen angels sinned, they mutated to have seed either. So I would lean against this argument.<br /> <br />John: This would not mean necessarily that everyone born of those children would also have the mixed seed. We do not read that post-flood activity by angels stopped. The only difference after the flood is that God said He would not judge the world again in this same manner.<br /> <br />Bodie: We do see their activities up to the time of Christ. I’ve tried to step back and look at the spiritual aspects of this. Let’s assume for a moment that the nephilim (offspring) were the way they were due to fallen angels (be it by interbreeding or merely demonic possession). Would the people be entirely to blame for their actions then – especially enough for God to exercise judgment with a Flood? Consider Christ, the Son of God – did He judge those who had demons, or help them?<br /> <br />John: 2) Like you, I do not believe that God judged the world just because of intermarriage and agree that it was because of such wickedness of men.<br /> <br />Bodie: Good. I guess it was just the way it was typed.<br /> <br />John: However, I am suggesting that the great wickedness evolved through the worship of demons etc and probable mass demonic possession.<br /> <br />Bodie: The Bible does say this though. And it wouldn’t surprise me if some of this was going on. <br /> <br />John: Why would it mention in Genesis 6 about the sons of God intermarrying as a forerunner to then discuss how wicked man had become, if it were not related together in some way?<br /> <br />Bodie: Like you, I believe it was related. Consider how God instructed the Israelites (sons of the living God – Hosea 1:10) not to intermarry with pagans surrounding them (Deuteronomy 7:3-4). The reason was to keep them and their children from being led astray to these false pagan deities. Even the wisest of all men, Solomon was led astray by his pagan wives (1 Kings 11:1-4).<br /> <br />Paul even reaffirms this with Christians (sons of God – Galatians 3:26) in 2 Corinthians 6:14-16, not to be yoked with unbelievers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-26452344406727863972010-05-11T17:56:09.204+01:002010-05-11T17:56:09.204+01:00Part 4
2nd email to Bodie:
John: Thanks so much ...Part 4<br /><br />2nd email to Bodie:<br /><br />John: Thanks so much for your quick response! I think you have misunderstood what I was asking or the direction I was going.<br /> <br />1) I was not saying I believed that angels interbred with humans. I do not believe this, at the moment.<br /> <br />Bodie: I didn’t think you did, sorry if I gave you that impression.<br /> <br />John: What I was suggesting is that satan being jealous of the human beauty wanted to deform what God had made beautiful. I believe he was jealous because he lost his beauty and standing before God.<br /> <br />Bodie: I wouldn’t discount that this was one of Satan’s motives either. But I suggest that this would have been more for supplemental motivation to get Adam and Eve to sin in the Garden. Since Satan’s fall, he is limited, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he no longer has the ability to see true beauty because his mind is “poisoned”. <br /> <br />John: I believe the way that he tried to achieve this was by sending his angel servants in to mess them up with demonic possession - not demonic seed! So the HUMANS born from the daughters of men were also possessed with powers and deformity. They were totally human as they were born naturally but demonic activity messed them up "the thief comes to steal, kill and destroy".<br /> <br />Bodie: I would definitely leave this option open. There is no doubt that demons have inhabited people and messed with both their mind and bodies. We see examples of that in Jesus’ own day.<br /> <br />John: Anyway, even if angels did put their seed inside women (which I find hard to accept) it doesn't mean that the children would not be totally human. Mary had "normal" children after having Jesus.<br /> <br />Bodie: This may not be a good comparison though. First, there is a difference between good angels and God and second, there is a bigger difference between fallen angels and God. If you recall, God created Adam (and subsequently Eve) and breathed life into him, so God own all human life and if the Creator of the universe wants to become a man that is not a problem for Him. Angels, especially fallen angels cannot create life as God does, and so we need to be cautious about giving qualities to angels, especially the fallen ones, that God has.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-17886196595106121302010-05-11T17:42:51.057+01:002010-05-11T17:42:51.057+01:00Part3
John: Therefore there must have been terrib...Part3<br /><br />John: Therefore there must have been terrible occultic/magic practices going on which resulted in corrupted and demonic humanity with humans becoming deformed/unnatural.<br /><br />Bodie: I wouldn’t discount that some of this was indeed happening (it was even happening in Christ’s day with demonic possession), however, they would still be human since they would be influencing man to be with women. The human kind has boundaries, and demons are not part of the human kind.<br /> <br />But with this, it pushes the responsibility of sin to fallen angels/demons as opposed to people. Let’s face it people can be downright sinful without the need to say “demons made me do it”. J So with this, the view leads to people being the “innocent” vessels, whereas demons should have been judged. But God still punished physical people with a physical Flood that would not have affected spiritual demons in the least. <br /> <br />John: Could that be the reason why Nephilim still appeared in later times because of black magic practices?<br /> <br />Bodie: I wouldn’t discount that this may have been a contributing factor. What I’ve found is interesting is that the Nephilim appear post-Flood, without the need of sons of God to be their fathers. This goes to show that Nephilim can appear without even the possibility of appealing to sons of God being fallen angels or influenced by fallen angels. The Nephilim in Numbers, for example, would have had parents strictly by humans. So if they come about by humans here, then it makes sense that the sons of God in Genesis 6 would require nothing more. <br /> <br />John: I know that the word Nephilim is not used later in the bible but you do read of giants like Goliath. In Greek Mythology you read of giants.<br /> <br />Bodie: True and they were in other mythologies too, such as Norse. <br /> <br />John: Even today there are some incredibly tall people still existing. Could this be the affect of the mix in past generations still affecting us today?<br /> <br />Bodie: It seems more likely that they are merely humans with genes for being very tall. Remember, we have people who are equally short. So with the filtering of genes throughout the human population would should get some variation. Another factor to helps reveal the genetic connection to giantism:<br /> <br />2 Samuel 21:20 Yet again there was war at Gath, where there was a man of great stature, who had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot, twenty-four in number; and he also was born to the giant.<br /> <br />The son of giant here, also inherited that great stature (the fingers and toes are for another discussion J). Keep in mind that giants were not as common as we might think in ancient times. Otherwise, why was there a need to single them out, like Goliath. I hope this helps, and thanks for great discussion. God bless to you as well.<br /> <br />BodieAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-51208081006906292772010-05-11T17:42:30.583+01:002010-05-11T17:42:30.583+01:00Part 2:
John: Although I like the case you presen...Part 2:<br /><br />John: Although I like the case you present I have problems seeing why simple marriage between fallen human beings (for all have sinned) would be SO bad that God would need to exercise such a terrible judgement on ALL mankind, beasts etc.<br /> <br />Bodie: The Bible doesn’t say that marriages between them were the reason for the judgment. Genesis 6:5 says: Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.<br /> <br />So the reason was such great sin and wickedness. But the sheer fact that marriages and the types were mentioned in context reveals that this played a part. Recall what God later reveals to Malachi (2:15): But did He not make them one, Having a remnant of the Spirit? And why one? He seeks godly offspring. Therefore take heed to your spirit, And let none deal treacherously with the wife of his youth.<br /> <br />The Lord was seeking godly offspring and Malachi takes this reference back to the beginning (making them one – Genesis 2:24). Paul affirms this too when he said to the Corinthians:<br /> <br />2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?<br /> <br />A consistent God would seek godly offspring in each generation. So a marriage to the ungodly resulted in ungodly offspring. The fact that the godly fell from their godliness (remember they were not seen as righteous either and died in the Flood) and their children and grandchildren weren’t either.<br /><br />Exodus 20:3 says: "You shall have no other gods before Me.<br /> <br />The 10 Commandments are transcendent laws (e.g. it was wrong for Cain to murder, even prior to Moses being presented with the 10 Commandment, etc.) So it would have been wrong for anyone to have other gods besides God. And finding a wife among the ungodly and letting one’s children grow in ways that opposed God easily accounts for such wickedness and sin that God ultimately judged with a Flood. <br /> <br />John: The only thing which could be so terrible would be that the whole world had become so rebellious against God with great hatred for God led by the one who hates God the most. <br /> <br />Bodie: We agree completely here. Satan surely played his part didn’t he? But consider this point, against the angelic view where fallen angels bred with women. According to that view those angels who did this are sent under judgment in chains, etc. (These verses are commonly used:<br /> <br />2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;<br />Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;)<br /> <br />If Satan were leading this cause of impregnating women, why is Satan not bound like this in Hell? For we see Satan’s actions later with Job and even tempting Christ.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-52444806040824231132010-05-11T17:41:14.270+01:002010-05-11T17:41:14.270+01:00This was the reply I received to my first email to...This was the reply I received to my first email to Bodie. I have to put it into several comments as it is very large:<br /><br />Part 1:<br />Bodie: Thank you for contacting Answers in Genesis. It is always a pleasure hearing thoughts about the Nephilim.<br /><br />John: If it is true that any Godly offspring or chosen by God (whether from Seth or not) who followed God's ways, could be considered as sons of God, why would they want to intermarry/mingle with ungodly women?<br /> <br />Bodie: I see your point, but even today, Christians who are called “sons of God” (Galatians 3:26) marry ungodly people. <br /> <br />John: If the Godly were Sons of God, wouldn't that act of disobedience to God in intermarrying render them as no longer a son of God? I mean, if they were Godly, how is it they were no different from the unGodly in that they did the same things?<br /> <br />Bodie: That is exactly the point, they fell away in the same way Solomon did. Further, they permitted to let their children be trained in the ungodly ways. If people were living nearly 900 years, as per the lineage from Adam to Noah, and God’s countdown to the Flood when discussing these sons of God and their children, was 120 years before (Genesis 6:3). Then this means that by the time of the Flood, these people who were called by a godly title traded that in for “wickedness”. For many of these godly people, “sons of God”, as they were previously known, died in the Flood.<br /> <br />Wouldn't that mean that the Sons of God could not be sinful humans, even though they may have been chosen by grace as flag bearers for God.<br /> <br />This would make them no less human than Solomon. Keep in mind that being called “sons of God” didn’t make them perfect or sinless in their actions. Adam was called a son of God (Luke 3:38), Israelites (Hosea 1:10, sons of the living God) and Christians are called sons of God (Galatians 3:26). However, Adam made his mistakes and we make ours. There is no reason to assume these sons of God in Genesis 6 were without their mistakes but that doesn’t make them any less human. <br /> <br />But this argument actually hurts other views worse, like the fallen angel view. Why would fallen angels be dubbed sons of God – especially with their blatant hate and continual sin against God?<br /> <br />Besides God did not say "be fruitful but only with the Godly".<br /> <br />Keep in mind that when God originally made this command it was in a perfect world where there were no ungodly (Genesis 1:28). J<br /> <br />Therefore, was it a sin say for Seth to marry one of Cain's daughters? Were they not instructed to fill the earth with children? How could they do it without intermarrying in the early days?<br /> <br />Even Cain, being a murderer, still had semblance of God and even spoke to the Lord. So we need to be careful of assuming that these initial generations were rather ungodly. God didn’t wipe them out. In fact, it took 10 generations for that to happen. So marring among each others lineages wouldn’t have been crossing much of a godly versus ungodly line – especially off the start (remember Adam was alive to teach them too).<br /> <br />The biggest distinction between Cain’s line and others lines, if any, would have been distance. Recall that Cain was banished to the land of wandering (Nod – Genesis 4:16) where he built a city (v. 17). Most likely his descendants were isolated so intermarrying may have been limited at first.<br /> <br />Though there is no reason to assume they didn’t intermarry later on – after all something from Cain’s line must have made it through – there are people who play the harp, like David did, and flute; Genesis 4:21 His brother’s name was Jubal. He was the father of all those who play the harp and flute. Jubal is of Cain’s lineage and perhaps some of the wives of Noah’s sons have him as an ancestor.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-48020373732039707932010-05-11T17:14:52.170+01:002010-05-11T17:14:52.170+01:00Hi again SOT
There seem to be a lot of organisati...Hi again SOT<br /><br />There seem to be a lot of organisations jumping onto the bandwagon of the Nephilim. Whilst I was putting my report together I noticed David Icke (new age alien conspiracist)was leading a lot of people towards the idea that the World leaders were all from the Nephilim/Alien/dinosaur seed. As New Ageists like David Icke and other weird groups are preaching this, we should be very wary.<br /><br />There are also many watchman who endorse Chuck Missler, but I have reservations because he also puts forward the Nephilim "mixed seed" teaching.<br /><br />I may or may not tackle this in the future. I have reservations in this whole topic because I ask the questions: "is it important and is it helpful to know?", "how will it change our witness, faith and service to the Lord to know whether it is true or not?", "if it is satanic teaching, could it harm christians to get caught up in this whole thinking?<br /><br />I take the premise that if the scripture spells it out, then we need to know - if it is shrouded in mystery because very little is spoken on it, then it is NOT important.<br /><br />Also I take the stand that we should NEVER make a doctrine or presumption based on a few verses of scripture if the main teachings of scripture speaks otherwise, ie a few verses of scripture cannot counter what large chunks of scripture teach as a whole. If the few verses of scripture seem to speak in contradiction to the majority of the bible then maybe the interpretation (not the verses)are incorrect. Maybe we should consider those verses in the light of other scripture.<br /><br />I wonder if the teaching about Nephilim is one of the subjects the person of God should not get caught up in re Titus 3:9 "But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain".<br /><br />Okay, having said all that, I did contact Bodie Hodge of Answers In Genesis, who is a specialist on the Nephilim subject. I will paste the email chat we had on the next commentAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-9643546761677145242010-05-11T05:59:27.863+01:002010-05-11T05:59:27.863+01:00John, I'm curious as to your thoughts about th...John, I'm curious as to your thoughts about the global leaders being Nephilim.son of thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13114180900756825280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-2244245147385893472010-05-10T13:24:16.572+01:002010-05-10T13:24:16.572+01:00Hi EI again,
I forgot to mention. Yes, the aim of...Hi EI again,<br /><br />I forgot to mention. Yes, the aim of my entire blog is to keep things simple and to the point, with main purpose to win the uninformed to Christ. The purpose of equipping Christians is to enable them to win their contacts to Jesus also.<br /><br />So my blog aims to disciple/encourage believers to win others and also reach unbelievers directly. Therefore, I want to ensure my articles keep to the point of the blog and tackle/report on the main issues in a concise way rather than getting caught up into massively long reports. I am hoping to write "readable" reports in order to grab and maintain everyone's attention and keep them interested. So yes you were right!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-14961112831971362572010-05-10T13:15:16.360+01:002010-05-10T13:15:16.360+01:00Thanks EI
Your observation is completely spot on....Thanks EI<br /><br />Your observation is completely spot on. As I spent time on producing the report I believe the Holy Spirit was reminding me of what issues we should and should not focus on. At the end of the day, we are encouraged to keep focussed on Jesus and not on the events that surround us.<br /><br />I wanted to say much more about Common Purpose but there are others (with much more insight than me, on the subject) who can be more informative.<br /><br />My purpose was simply to show a birds eye view of the events on planet earth, showing how things all fit together into ONE global (satanic) conspiracy but that we need not be concerned as one day (soon) Jesus will reign (with his saints) forever.<br /><br />Having said this, I think it WOULD be good to notify the people you mentioned to read my report.<br /><br />The reason I say this is because their visitors (as you say) may get too informed and fearful into the seriousness of individual organisations without seeing the full picture. I am trying to present the full picture and not get so caught up that we cannot "see the wood for the trees".<br /><br />As I prepared the report, it seems like God was leading me to show the full picture rather than being too informative.<br /><br />Thanks again my sister and bless you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-66651660773127907132010-05-10T12:26:19.043+01:002010-05-10T12:26:19.043+01:00Hello John
I have waited to write about your repor...Hello John<br />I have waited to write about your report in order to think about what you were NOT saying and why? <br /><br />As one familiar with the issue, it was disappointing, as I was expecting further in-depth information on the subject; as it was, the only thing I did not know was the phrase ‘Common Purpose’. For this reason, it is pointless notifying men like Dave Hunt, David Reagan even Bob Mitchell and the like, of your report, as they are already well versed on the topic. Indeed it is evident that ‘it’ is gathering momentum as I write.<br /><br />However, you did make it plain in your introduction the reason for your caution, which seems to be why you wrote so little on such a huge subject. I gather that your aim was to present a careful introduction to those who know absolutely nothing at all, about the sinister background to world affairs i.e. Nimrod, Apollyon, Illuminati, order out of chaos etc; etc! <br /><br />So this is not a criticism of your report, rather a setting it into the proper context of the new, uninformed believer, for which it is perfectly acceptable.<br /><br />God bless your work John.<br /><br />P.S.<br />I have just seen your post to me and will TRY to log onto my email next.(It is SUCH a pain).<br />SueExpected Imminentlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-54453666128972141422010-05-09T23:12:42.263+01:002010-05-09T23:12:42.263+01:00Hi EI,
I received and read your longer comment bu...Hi EI,<br /><br />I received and read your longer comment but would prefer to publish it onto a more appropriate post. However, I do not have an appropriate one at the moment.<br /><br />I have emailed you, to your personal email address, discussing it with you and seeking your advice.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-22794072435879090082010-05-09T15:53:07.026+01:002010-05-09T15:53:07.026+01:00Sean
God bless your heart! I am SO pleased to see...Sean<br />God bless your heart! I am SO pleased to see you here. <br /><br />John<br />Sean is amazingly insightful to all thing military, especially connected with the end times. Sean all too often leaves me speechless, and that’s hard to do!<br />SueExpected Imminentlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-89953440138808089322010-05-08T13:24:05.837+01:002010-05-08T13:24:05.837+01:00Thanks so much Sean. Bless you.Thanks so much Sean. Bless you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-48735797045089251172010-05-08T13:12:38.863+01:002010-05-08T13:12:38.863+01:00John,
Excellent and inspiring work in the Name an...John,<br /><br />Excellent and inspiring work in the Name and for the Glory of the Lord. Last Days Watchman has been added to my own "favorite links" listing.<br /><br />God Bless,<br />SeanSean Osbornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16635416157001117844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-86283066897164179782010-05-07T00:43:09.088+01:002010-05-07T00:43:09.088+01:00Hi Tony
Thanks for your news item from the Tony B...Hi Tony<br /><br />Thanks for your news item from the Tony Blair Faith Foundation.<br /><br />I have published it on my post entitled "Tony Blair Faith Foundation, Rick Warren PEACE Agenda & One World Political Religious Government" as it seems more appropriate there.<br /><br />Sorry I haven't replied until now. Been very busy. Also seeking the Lord as to what I should post next. I stated before that I would post articles on why we should support Israel (according to the scriptures). I will be focussing on that soon.<br /><br />Also, I feel led to write on the subject "the marks/evidences of being filled with the Holy Spirit" according to the scriptures.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-47034306510343267762010-05-07T00:19:38.224+01:002010-05-07T00:19:38.224+01:00Hi Sue
Sorry to hear about further upset. May the...Hi Sue<br /><br />Sorry to hear about further upset. May the Lord intervene and bring peace, showing the light of His truth to the minds and hearts of your whole family. May the veil be removed and they see clearly the truth so that the truth will set them free.<br /><br />I have just completed having a look at Prophecy Update. Yes it seems good for information. However, I cannot find anything on his blog which gives any clues to his personal faith, so do not know what his faith is.<br /><br />His profile mentions he is into Hillsong music, which gives me some cause for concern.<br /><br />He only ever seems to discuss prophecy issues. That is fine to a point, but it could mean that he is overbalanced on just one area. My observation is that Christians who get too caught up in prophecy become "almost" heretical as they miss and forget the most important parts of our faith and have an unhealthy hunger for the apocalypse.<br /><br />As you can see from my blog, I do see the importance of being a watchman, but also try to be balanced by declaring the WHOLE counsel of God.<br /><br />For the benefit of newsworthy articles I see no harm in reading his items. I may even decide to include him in my list of news reporters. However, I will read his articles with reservation based on what I have already said.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.com