tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post2676120617362361962..comments2024-03-22T02:49:13.173+00:00Comments on Last Days Watchman: What True Biblical Fellowship is and Why It is Vital We Live It, In These Last DaysAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-24506253983128564252014-10-28T18:29:01.902+00:002014-10-28T18:29:01.902+00:00Thanks IHF
You may have noticed in my articles, o...Thanks IHF<br /><br />You may have noticed in my articles, over the last 2 years, how I have also become aware of how many messianic Jews organisations are ecumenical. Some of these may be ignorantly ecumenical but others are blatant, such as Jews For Jesus and Chosen People Ministries.<br /><br />You may have noticed that I no longer support Jacob Prasch and Moriel Ministries for a lot of reasons. Please read my article on:<br /><br />http://watchmanforjesus.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/are-these-wordsactions-of-true-man-of.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-89804746205694763062014-10-28T18:21:01.726+00:002014-10-28T18:21:01.726+00:00Greetings John C in the name of our dear Lord and ...Greetings John C in the name of our dear Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.<br /><br />I thought this was wonderfully written. And it is exactly how I have been taught of the Lord on how the "True Body of Christ" must meet and to minister to one another. Ministering to the Body of Christ is First, then the sinners in the world, as the Holy Spirit guides us. <br /><br />I consider each day to be the Sabbath, in other words "His Rest" and as we are abiding in Him, we are at one in Him, and are Holy in Him. We don't need just one day to worship, we worship Him each day, and trust Him to guide us in our daily duties.<br /><br />I just want to state that when the Lord saved me some 36 years ago, I being a babe in Christ was introduced to a community of believers, the name of this group was called "His Rest". I was only about 2-3 months into the New Birth of Christ when I was introduced to this group. We lived together and supported the Leader who was a woman with her son. We were about 13-14 people living in one house. It was wonderful to be surrounded by other believers on a continual basis, but there was some major problems with such close contact. We never had much individual alone time, always slept with other people, and there were other major issues such as being led by a woman, and I was taught "doctrine of demons". It was a cult, which I departed from back in the early 80's. I won't get into the details, but this I've learned "familiarity breeds contempt". <br /><br />Everything needs to be done and sanctioned through the Holy Spirit, persons private lives must be respected, and shepherding is not a biblical stance. No one person can have authority over the Lord's sheep, we each are accountable to the Lord, boundaries are a necessity in such a situation.<br /><br />I just wanted to share some of my experiences that I have learned by. I'm not saying no to any part of your findings, but it has to be approached with much wisdom, and patience.<br /><br />Now I would like to state, in reference to Kiwi and your response to her. That I have had involvement with a number of Messianic groups here in Canada, and in the US. And there are major doctrinal issues that are wrapped up within these groups. Most that I've been involve with are tied into other groups that are ecumenical, and their worship music is not of the spirit. They also do not follow the New Testament way of fellowship. It's your typical status-quo of doing "church", with tithing which is un-scriptural in it's foundation.<br /><br />I can give more detail if you so desire especially concerning the Moriel Ministries with Jacob Prasch. I do not support that group whatsoever.<br /><br />You are the second web-site that I've come across that are revealing the true purpose of the "Body of Christ" and how it's to function, I thank the Lord more are realizing this truth. I've been out of the "church" system for over ten plus years. But I do manage to have fellowship with believers via Skype and some here in Montreal (brethren), but the pickings are sparse.<br /><br />The Lord bless you abundantly..... IntoHisFullnessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-76545705824939014372011-08-24T15:31:03.627+01:002011-08-24T15:31:03.627+01:00Hi everyone
Further to my last comment of 9 month...Hi everyone<br /><br />Further to my last comment of 9 months ago regarding those videos.<br /><br />I have contacted one of the guys on those videos. The one from England.<br />I have written many emails to him and also met him personally.<br /><br />I have also spent much time evaluating what he/they are all about and then consulted a wise/discerning Christian contact about the things they are saying. <br /><br />Through this persons help we raised some very important questions about what they do and what they believe.<br /><br />We were shocked by the answers we got from them. I will copy parts of our final email (which I never got a reply to) below. <br /><br />Based on these things, I can no longer approve the videos. However, I will still leave them here, for now, because I am keen for others to tell me their impressions, here.<br /><br />Anyway, these were the crux of our final questions on email based on our complete observations. These questions will highlight their error and why they could turn out to be dangerous:<br /><br />1) I cannot find any other biblical teaching on your site and videos, given apart from what the Bible teaches on "being a biblical church". I am wondering if you teach the whole Bible in your meetings, ie from Genesis to Revelation on other subjects? You also seem to be supportive of Watchman Nee's teachings on fellowship?<br /><br />2) No one leads the meetings, no order or structure but experience on feelings, no systematic teaching?<br /><br />3) You state that Churches thrash things out ‘consensually’??????. This is SO PD! Truth is truth when the group decide it is; that is horrific! This is emergent talk. So, a little leaven is allowed to leaven the whole lump without being dealt with SCRIPTURALLY? Surely the Bible instructs us what to do, not consensus of opinion!<br /><br />4) Yes elders are ‘recognised’ by their gift, not appointed. BUT and elder MUST be an able teacher and lead by example in the Word. You muddle the ministry of elders with the ministry of Deacon the functional ‘carers’.<br /><br />5) You say that the NT church did not have the scriptures. Actually the NT Church DID have the ‘canon’. In addition to the OT, The Epistles and Letters were copied and freely distributed. The official canon was merely to recognise what was already known and accepted and systemised to root out the Gnostic writing that had begun in the post NT era.<br /><br />7) YES the Apostles and Prophets did have a unique infallible anointing by the HS. And yet, just like PD you say it like it SHOULD be, then puts in a codicil. “There is SUBJECTIVE revelation” This is exactly what is wrong with emergent. NOT! To hear from the Lord is still to be led by His written word. Subjective revelation is experiential. The leading of the Holy Spirit is NOT subjective revelation. This is emergent.<br /><br />8) Trans local ministries a role for the apostle? Sharing the ministries with other groups – today? I find that highly suspect. EVERY BELIEVER DOES have a ‘hot line’ to God! He is called The Holy Spirit.<br /><br />9) Although you are opposed to the heavy shepherding of the house church movement and the Latter rain way of apostolic ministry, you still believe in Apostolic ministry for our day, despite that Paul and Acts states that an Apostle has to be an eyewitness of the Life of Jesus.<br /><br />10) Your focus of what church should be seems only based on the book of Acts but not on all the NT letters.<br /><br />To use "consensus of opinion" to determine truth (eg that it is okay for the children to watch Harry Potter) is the most serious error in your teaching. If the majority of the church , say, is unspiritual, then their consensus will lead the whole church into sin.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-53466078127706130442010-11-12T16:04:43.736+00:002010-11-12T16:04:43.736+00:00Hi Guys,
I have added some more information withi...Hi Guys,<br /><br />I have added some more information within this article. Specifically, I have added some videos showing the New Reformation of House Churches NTRF of USA which seem to be addressing the issues I wrote about within this article and making real fellowship possible.<br /><br />They are not part of the New Apostolic Restoration (NAR) but are those who are trying to be a New Testament church biblically, separated from that false organisations.<br /><br />However, they use the term "doing church" which the emerging church use, but I cannot find any evidence of "emerging church" within the videos.<br /><br />I would appreciate any feedback you have, especially those of you who are in the USA.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-75611561725058792842010-09-27T07:58:42.078+01:002010-09-27T07:58:42.078+01:00Hi EI, Thanks for that
Before I respond I just wa...Hi EI, Thanks for that<br /><br />Before I respond I just want to inform that the continuation of the comments to this article continued "Connecting True Biblical Christians Together In Fellowship" This is where the continuation of this blog's fellowship related comments recommenced, ie: from this article to that article - although feel free to use either from now on.<br /><br />Having said that: even on that article it discontinued (maybe because it became an old item) about 4 months ago.<br /><br />In response to your fellowship comment. <br /><br />You are right that fellowship is with Jesus and fellowship with one another is through Jesus as 1 John 1:3-6 says. However, much of 1 John goes on to discuss the "hows" of feloowship like "loving each other". It is clear from the scriptures, that fellowship with one another requires close communication. How can you love one another sufficiently from a distance or how can you meet their physically needs eg when they need physical help which they cannot do on their own, like if they are ill.<br /><br />Paul said how much he was refreshed by having fellowship with individuals - he mentions them by name. The truth is that we all need to be refreshed by each other. Even a cuddle or a smile, hearing a kind gentle word IS refreshing and encouraging. These things cannot be done from a distance or over the internet properly.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-33042798021547734392010-09-24T17:12:16.846+01:002010-09-24T17:12:16.846+01:00Hello John
I noticed there have been no further c...Hello John<br /><br />I noticed there have been no further comments here for close to six months. This may be a good time to consider the following and not get downhearted.<br /><br />I heard theologian Bob Dewaay speak on what Biblical fellowship is, or rather what it isn't. <br />This isn't verbatum, but the gist of what he said was that - 'Most think of Christian fellowship as what believers can physically 'do' together. It isn't that at all, it is the fact of who we are in Christ, we are in fellowship together because of the Blood of Jesus Christ - this is why we cannot be in fellowship with the world'. Have a coffee or a game of tennis, even work with the world, but never the fellowship that is only through Christ.<br /><br />God bless SueExpected Imminentlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-72917705859558623232010-04-03T16:58:06.826+01:002010-04-03T16:58:06.826+01:00Thanks John,
I'll certainly contact them thank...Thanks John,<br />I'll certainly contact them thankyou for the contact.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13326987237786468339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-74495908332660413452010-04-03T16:43:01.657+01:002010-04-03T16:43:01.657+01:00Hi Kiwi
I do not know of any messianic fellowship...Hi Kiwi<br /><br />I do not know of any messianic fellowships in Cardiff but the nearest one I can find (recommended by Moriel Ministries)is in Bristol as follows:<br /><br />Keynsham Bristol (Misgav Ladach) <br /><br />Bristol, <br />UK<br />Tony Lewis 0117-9405715.<br /><br />Would this help?<br /><br />If this doesn't help please contact Moriel direct MorielCarol@yahoo.com <br /><br />They may be able to recommend a good church or Christians within your area.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-39803495065965703802010-04-03T12:05:24.434+01:002010-04-03T12:05:24.434+01:00Cheers John,
What a great post !
I feel exactly ...Cheers John,<br /><b>What a great post !</b> <br /><br />I feel exactly the same as you. I was brought up in the C of E and since 2001 have not been to church because of the lack of true biblical teaching. <br /><br />I can't find a church nearby that isn't tainted by new age or ecumenical links. I have been looking for a Messianic Assembly but have not been successful. I read the bible and thankfully have internet access to continue my studies. <br /><br />Lately I have felt very strongly that I am led to start preparations of saving dried foods and water. Some may say wait on the Lord and some say God will provide manna for His own when the tribulation begins but I honestly believe that God is guiding people to retreat from the world and prepare. <br /><br />There will be Christians who will be on the run and will need a safe place once the ac is on the rampage. Noah prepared well in advance in order to preserve his family and the world's animals. We should prepare to preserve Yah's people as the time is growing short when the world will be suddenly stunned when Yahweh intervenes and orders the angel to throw down the censer. I follow Bob Mitchell's blog and clicked from there. I like your way of thinking about how Yahshua wants us to live and worship. Tony Blair has blood on his hands and this faith foundation is inspired by the evil one. I would like to stay in touch as events get closer. <br /><br />I live outside of Cardiff in a fairly remote place but if you know of any church that I could fit into I would be very grateful.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13326987237786468339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-23737463860015504442010-03-06T10:58:35.777+00:002010-03-06T10:58:35.777+00:00Is there anybody living in Philadelphia PA area, w...Is there anybody living in Philadelphia PA area, who could recommend a sound church for Tony.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-85987053404029310402010-03-06T10:56:08.770+00:002010-03-06T10:56:08.770+00:00As unaldulterated biblical teaching (without mixed...As unaldulterated biblical teaching (without mixed in leaven) is hard to find in these days, it is becoming increasingly difficult to have REAL Christian fellowship. It seems that something needs to be done (differently) in order for true believers to fellowship together.<br /><br />As an experiment I would like you to do as Tony has done so that we can find like-minded believers in our local areas to fellowship with.<br /><br />Please feel free to advertise here on this post.<br /><br />Let's see how this develops. Hopefully I will become inundated with replies. However, it may or may not become out of control. We will have to see, but I am willing to test it out.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-29560368652376317562010-03-06T03:46:26.376+00:002010-03-06T03:46:26.376+00:00I live in the US in the Philadelphia, PA area. I ...I live in the US in the Philadelphia, PA area. I am hoping there is someone out there who may be interested in contacting me so that I may share with and learn from you.<br /><br />Please respond if you are or, if you know someone.<br /><br />Thank you.Tony Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06711726102771791905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-6669960609288404042010-03-05T22:42:10.078+00:002010-03-05T22:42:10.078+00:00Thanks
Yes, please do.Thanks<br />Yes, please do.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04713448621601972014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1842260823875796403.post-78235762634230179872010-03-05T20:50:18.406+00:002010-03-05T20:50:18.406+00:00This was truly a great post. I would like to shar...This was truly a great post. I would like to share this with others. Thank you.Tony Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06711726102771791905noreply@blogger.com